Comments on: Shake-up at Ovum http://blogs.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/2008/04/23/shake-up-at-ovum/ Weblog maintained by Hill+Knowlton Strategies\' global Analyst Relations team. Wed, 25 May 2011 06:28:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Duncan Chapple http://blogs.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/2008/04/23/shake-up-at-ovum/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Duncan Chapple Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:26:08 +0000 http://blogs2.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/10600.aspx#comment-126 <p>David is spot on with the musing that 'Perhaps it simply hasn't realised until recently what message the Ovum departures are sending out to the market.  Perhaps it doesn't think it matters.'</p> <p>I also think Datamonitor doesn't really feel responsible for its new family at Ovum, as if the 'victor' doesn't need to be caring.</p> <p>I wrote up some thoughts on this after attending the leaving drinks for some former Ovum colleagues a couple of  weeks ago. The outflow of staff is clearly a result of management actions... <a><a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.analystequity.com/?p=903</a>">http://www.analystequity.com/?p=903</a></a></p> David is spot on with the musing that ‘Perhaps it simply hasn’t realised until recently what message the Ovum departures are sending out to the market.  Perhaps it doesn’t think it matters.’

I also think Datamonitor doesn’t really feel responsible for its new family at Ovum, as if the ‘victor’ doesn’t need to be caring.

I wrote up some thoughts on this after attending the leaving drinks for some former Ovum colleagues a couple of  weeks ago. The outflow of staff is clearly a result of management actions… <a>http://www.analystequity.com/?p=903&lt;/a&gt;

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By: Carter Lusher http://blogs.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/2008/04/23/shake-up-at-ovum/comment-page-1/#comment-125 Carter Lusher Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:28:54 +0000 http://blogs2.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/10600.aspx#comment-125 <p>Great posts David and Dom. I linked to them at </p> <p>What’s happening at Ovum? David and Dom discuss (<a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/whats-happening-at-ovum-david-and-dom-discuss/">http://www.sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/whats-happening-at-ovum-david-and-dom-discuss/</a>)</p> Great posts David and Dom. I linked to them at

What’s happening at Ovum? David and Dom discuss (http://www.sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/whats-happening-at-ovum-david-and-dom-discuss/)

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By: Whats happening at Ovum David and Dom discuss « SageCircle Blog http://blogs.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/2008/04/23/shake-up-at-ovum/comment-page-1/#comment-124 Whats happening at Ovum David and Dom discuss « SageCircle Blog Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:07:43 +0000 http://blogs2.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/10600.aspx#comment-124 <p>PingBack from <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/whats-happening-at-ovum-david-and-dom-discuss/">http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/whats-happening-at-ovum-david-and-dom-discuss/</a></p> PingBack from http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/whats-happening-at-ovum-david-and-dom-discuss/

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By: Dominic Pannell http://blogs.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/2008/04/23/shake-up-at-ovum/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Dominic Pannell Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:31:42 +0000 http://blogs2.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/10600.aspx#comment-123 <p>Another post? That's an idea.</p> <p>I remember a colleague, Melissa, telling me that I had been "going hammer and tongs" on a phone call with Gartner's Peter Sondergaard during which I had been explaining the importance of providing details of analysts and the futility/counter-productiveness of concealing them from people who might wish to speak to them.</p> <p>That was back in 2001. Last year, Peter observed that Gartner had listened to me (along with several dozen other AR pros) and now provide more info (although arguably nowhere near sufficient). Perhaps it's time to bring out the ironmongery again?</p> Another post? That’s an idea.

I remember a colleague, Melissa, telling me that I had been "going hammer and tongs" on a phone call with Gartner’s Peter Sondergaard during which I had been explaining the importance of providing details of analysts and the futility/counter-productiveness of concealing them from people who might wish to speak to them.

That was back in 2001. Last year, Peter observed that Gartner had listened to me (along with several dozen other AR pros) and now provide more info (although arguably nowhere near sufficient). Perhaps it’s time to bring out the ironmongery again?

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By: David R http://blogs.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/2008/04/23/shake-up-at-ovum/comment-page-1/#comment-122 David R Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:05:44 +0000 http://blogs2.hillandknowlton.com/arcade/10600.aspx#comment-122 <p>Thanks Dom.</p> <p>Oh yes, interesting times at Ovum.  David Mitchell did an interesting presentation at the IIAR meeting and came across well. </p> <p>However, lots of analysts are obviously leaving and very few seem to be joining.  </p> <p>This going to have an impact on public perception and almost certainly research quality (not least because there's fewer people doing the same amount of work - they're more stretched and perhaps covering areas that they don't know as well). </p> <p>But Datamonitor has always been a fairly anonymous company when it comes to analysts (can you name a Datamonitor analyst with the same profile as some of those leaving Ovum?)  </p> <p>Perhaps it simply hasn't realised until recently what message the Ovum departures are sending out to the market.  Perhaps it doesn't think it matters. </p> <p>It does - but as to why...well, that's another blog post in itself ;-)</p> Thanks Dom.

Oh yes, interesting times at Ovum.  David Mitchell did an interesting presentation at the IIAR meeting and came across well.

However, lots of analysts are obviously leaving and very few seem to be joining.  

This going to have an impact on public perception and almost certainly research quality (not least because there’s fewer people doing the same amount of work – they’re more stretched and perhaps covering areas that they don’t know as well).

But Datamonitor has always been a fairly anonymous company when it comes to analysts (can you name a Datamonitor analyst with the same profile as some of those leaving Ovum?)  

Perhaps it simply hasn’t realised until recently what message the Ovum departures are sending out to the market.  Perhaps it doesn’t think it matters.

It does – but as to why…well, that’s another blog post in itself ;-)

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